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	<title>Comments on: Hypocrisy and the Accessible MP</title>
	<link>http://www.jbvisions.co.uk/voices/archives/49</link>
	<description>Breezing the shoot. Random mutterings of a Web Developer.</description>
	<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 20:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Nicole</title>
		<link>http://www.jbvisions.co.uk/voices/archives/49#comment-95</link>
		<author>Nicole</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 22:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>It's a pretty sad state of affairs isn't it?

I could really go into the need for a national governing body for web designers in every country like I do at times on forums elsewhere, but perhaps if pressure is kept up on politicians at all levels then maybe that's what this will lead to anyway. 

Gill, do you have Ministers over there with portfolios such as Information Technology, Communications and Health? I'm sure you do, but they just may be titled differently. It would be interesting to see what their sites are like, what the opposition parties "shadow" Ministers sites are like in those portfolios also. 

Why not contact one of the Shadow Ministers, regardless of what their site is like, point out what's being pointed out here and hopefully do a site for them - then they might go into parliament and attack the government in this respect?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a pretty sad state of affairs isn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>I could really go into the need for a national governing body for web designers in every country like I do at times on forums elsewhere, but perhaps if pressure is kept up on politicians at all levels then maybe that&#8217;s what this will lead to anyway. </p>
<p>Gill, do you have Ministers over there with portfolios such as Information Technology, Communications and Health? I&#8217;m sure you do, but they just may be titled differently. It would be interesting to see what their sites are like, what the opposition parties &#8220;shadow&#8221; Ministers sites are like in those portfolios also. </p>
<p>Why not contact one of the Shadow Ministers, regardless of what their site is like, point out what&#8217;s being pointed out here and hopefully do a site for them - then they might go into parliament and attack the government in this respect?</p>
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		<title>By: Jaybee</title>
		<link>http://www.jbvisions.co.uk/voices/archives/49#comment-98</link>
		<author>Jaybee</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 10:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Portfolio! We have an entire department, the &lt;a href="http://www.officefordisability.gov.uk/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Office for Disability Issues&lt;/a&gt; and a minister to go with it, &lt;a href="http://www.annemcguiremp.org.uk/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Anne McGuire MP&lt;/a&gt;.

Her own site is very basic so should pass everything with flying colours. It has invalid code. The developer has provided an HTML 4 doctype then used XHTML code in places.  The CSS is invalid. The home page fails automated checks for WAI priority 1 although other pages pass. 

Text does resize, some images have alt text which doesn't add to the content, one has no alt text which is why it's failing level 1. It is keyboard navigable so it's pretty usable but as I say very basic and really has no excuse not to be correct.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Portfolio! We have an entire department, the <a href="http://www.officefordisability.gov.uk/">Office for Disability Issues</a> and a minister to go with it, <a href="http://www.annemcguiremp.org.uk/">Anne McGuire MP</a>.</p>
<p>Her own site is very basic so should pass everything with flying colours. It has invalid code. The developer has provided an HTML 4 doctype then used XHTML code in places.  The CSS is invalid. The home page fails automated checks for WAI priority 1 although other pages pass. </p>
<p>Text does resize, some images have alt text which doesn&#8217;t add to the content, one has no alt text which is why it&#8217;s failing level 1. It is keyboard navigable so it&#8217;s pretty usable but as I say very basic and really has no excuse not to be correct.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaybee</title>
		<link>http://www.jbvisions.co.uk/voices/archives/49#comment-99</link>
		<author>Jaybee</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 11:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.jbvisions.co.uk/voices/archives/49#comment-99</guid>
					<description>Aaargh! They're all at it. Elections yesterday so I've been waiting for the local results to come in. I've been monitoring the local radio site for the figures and nothing much has been happening. The reporter on the spot came on air then vanished again so I followed the link to the &lt;a href="http://www.westberks.gov.uk/index.aspx?articleid=295" rel="nofollow"&gt;West Berkshire Council&lt;/a&gt; site to see if results were posted there.

Impressed or what! Foot of the page - Valid HTML, Valid CSS and WAI AA! AA no less. Well you just have to check don't you and the only badge that's correct is the CSS one.

It looks like a CMS and I appreciate that you can't always get those to be fully compliant but then you don't claim they are. And if they start out compliant then you take the time to make sure the updates are as well.

Usefully, they have a feedback forum about site design and usability, so I've fedback. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaargh! They&#8217;re all at it. Elections yesterday so I&#8217;ve been waiting for the local results to come in. I&#8217;ve been monitoring the local radio site for the figures and nothing much has been happening. The reporter on the spot came on air then vanished again so I followed the link to the <a href="http://www.westberks.gov.uk/index.aspx?articleid=295">West Berkshire Council</a> site to see if results were posted there.</p>
<p>Impressed or what! Foot of the page - Valid HTML, Valid CSS and WAI AA! AA no less. Well you just have to check don&#8217;t you and the only badge that&#8217;s correct is the CSS one.</p>
<p>It looks like a CMS and I appreciate that you can&#8217;t always get those to be fully compliant but then you don&#8217;t claim they are. And if they start out compliant then you take the time to make sure the updates are as well.</p>
<p>Usefully, they have a feedback forum about site design and usability, so I&#8217;ve fedback. <img src='http://www.jbvisions.co.uk/voices/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Isofarro</title>
		<link>http://www.jbvisions.co.uk/voices/archives/49#comment-110</link>
		<author>Isofarro</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 20:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>"For anyone reading this who doesn’t understand what it’s all about, to paraphrase the Disability Discrimination Act (DDA) - any web site that offers goods, services or information to the public, whether paid for or not, must be accessible to all regardless of ability or technology."

Err... no. The Disability Discrimination Act protects disabled people but not technology. Here's a reference from the DDA itself : http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts1995/95050--a.htm#1
"a person has a disability for the purposes of this Act if he has a physical or mental impairment which has a substantial and long-term adverse effect on his ability to carry out normal day-to-day activities."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;For anyone reading this who doesn’t understand what it’s all about, to paraphrase the Disability Discrimination Act (DDA) - any web site that offers goods, services or information to the public, whether paid for or not, must be accessible to all regardless of ability or technology.&#8221;</p>
<p>Err&#8230; no. The Disability Discrimination Act protects disabled people but not technology. Here&#8217;s a reference from the DDA itself : <a href="http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts1995/95050&#8211;a.htm#1">http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts1995/95050&#8211;a.htm#1</a><br />
&#8220;a person has a disability for the purposes of this Act if he has a physical or mental impairment which has a substantial and long-term adverse effect on his ability to carry out normal day-to-day activities.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jaybee</title>
		<link>http://www.jbvisions.co.uk/voices/archives/49#comment-119</link>
		<author>Jaybee</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 17:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I agree but the fact that a person has a disability may mean they need assistive software. If you don't cater for that software then you are preventing that person from accessing your site, ergo, you are discriminating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree but the fact that a person has a disability may mean they need assistive software. If you don&#8217;t cater for that software then you are preventing that person from accessing your site, ergo, you are discriminating.</p>
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