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	<title>Comments on: Blogging Against Disablism&#8230;</title>
	<link>http://www.jbvisions.co.uk/voices/archives/38</link>
	<description>Breezing the shoot. Random mutterings of a Web Developer.</description>
	<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 20:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Helena Boylen</title>
		<link>http://www.jbvisions.co.uk/voices/archives/38#comment-78</link>
		<author>Helena Boylen</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 11:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;blockquote cite="Jaybee"&gt;... a reasonable level of accessibility &lt;/blockquote&gt;
Ah that's the thing isn't it?  

I think that many people seem to think that making sites reasonably accessible is impossibly hard and therefore they don't bother at all.  The concept of "reasonable" seems to escape them completely.  

I don't think there's any such thing as 100% accessibility - but we can do our best to do what we can.  If it's really unreasonable to make a particular element of a site accessible (for argument's sake) then, ok - do  what you can around it, offer alternatives if possible, show willing and understanding of the issues involved.  But so many just do nothing at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote cite="Jaybee"><p>&#8230; a reasonable level of accessibility </p></blockquote>
<p>Ah that&#8217;s the thing isn&#8217;t it?  </p>
<p>I think that many people seem to think that making sites reasonably accessible is impossibly hard and therefore they don&#8217;t bother at all.  The concept of &#8220;reasonable&#8221; seems to escape them completely.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s any such thing as 100% accessibility - but we can do our best to do what we can.  If it&#8217;s really unreasonable to make a particular element of a site accessible (for argument&#8217;s sake) then, ok - do  what you can around it, offer alternatives if possible, show willing and understanding of the issues involved.  But so many just do nothing at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Shannon</title>
		<link>http://www.jbvisions.co.uk/voices/archives/38#comment-79</link>
		<author>Shannon</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 13:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Just stopping by to check out your post. Good job!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just stopping by to check out your post. Good job!</p>
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		<title>By: Sean McManus</title>
		<link>http://www.jbvisions.co.uk/voices/archives/38#comment-82</link>
		<author>Sean McManus</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 18:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.jbvisions.co.uk/voices/archives/38#comment-82</guid>
					<description>Cost is only really an issue if accessibility is being retro-fitted. It's no more expensive to build an accessible site provided that's the goal at the start.

Webdesigners are, mostly, young people and so are not, on the whole, affected by accessibility issues in the same way that the average (older) population is. That is, designers are on average much less likely to have accessibility issues than the people they're designing for. I think we'll see a change as the average age of webdesigners increases, but I'm hoping it's not going to take that long to achieve greater accessibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cost is only really an issue if accessibility is being retro-fitted. It&#8217;s no more expensive to build an accessible site provided that&#8217;s the goal at the start.</p>
<p>Webdesigners are, mostly, young people and so are not, on the whole, affected by accessibility issues in the same way that the average (older) population is. That is, designers are on average much less likely to have accessibility issues than the people they&#8217;re designing for. I think we&#8217;ll see a change as the average age of webdesigners increases, but I&#8217;m hoping it&#8217;s not going to take that long to achieve greater accessibility.</p>
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		<title>By: Wombley</title>
		<link>http://www.jbvisions.co.uk/voices/archives/38#comment-101</link>
		<author>Wombley</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 19:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.jbvisions.co.uk/voices/archives/38#comment-101</guid>
					<description>Well put as always Gill (though I liked v1.0 better ;-)) I understand though that referring to the "the bottom line is everything" brigade as "heartless b*******" my not go down too well in some quarters. 

I'm afraid to say though that the sad fact is that there always going to be some who miss the point entirely. Some do "the right thing" because it's the right thing to do. Some don't through lack of knowledge, but they're willing to learn. But some (and they're the ones who in general are thoughtless and make assumptions about what it means to be disabled offline too), are sadly never going to get it - at least any time in the near future. There will always be designers/developers who don't care. What the answer is, I don't know. As my mum always says, you don't have to get hit by a bus to know it'll hurt, but there are some things in life you have to experience (look ma, you're famous!). Sadly there are those though who'll only realise the importance of accessibility and the error of their ways too late. Their "disability" of a lack of understanding and empathy is perhaps the greatest sadness. They have the power to make a change and make a difference, but choose not to exercise that choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well put as always Gill (though I liked v1.0 better ;-)) I understand though that referring to the &#8220;the bottom line is everything&#8221; brigade as &#8220;heartless b*******&#8221; my not go down too well in some quarters. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m afraid to say though that the sad fact is that there always going to be some who miss the point entirely. Some do &#8220;the right thing&#8221; because it&#8217;s the right thing to do. Some don&#8217;t through lack of knowledge, but they&#8217;re willing to learn. But some (and they&#8217;re the ones who in general are thoughtless and make assumptions about what it means to be disabled offline too), are sadly never going to get it - at least any time in the near future. There will always be designers/developers who don&#8217;t care. What the answer is, I don&#8217;t know. As my mum always says, you don&#8217;t have to get hit by a bus to know it&#8217;ll hurt, but there are some things in life you have to experience (look ma, you&#8217;re famous!). Sadly there are those though who&#8217;ll only realise the importance of accessibility and the error of their ways too late. Their &#8220;disability&#8221; of a lack of understanding and empathy is perhaps the greatest sadness. They have the power to make a change and make a difference, but choose not to exercise that choice.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaybee</title>
		<link>http://www.jbvisions.co.uk/voices/archives/38#comment-102</link>
		<author>Jaybee</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 19:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.jbvisions.co.uk/voices/archives/38#comment-102</guid>
					<description>That was version one, with added oomph. :-)

Hello Wombley's mum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was version one, with added oomph. <img src='http://www.jbvisions.co.uk/voices/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Hello Wombley&#8217;s mum.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaybee</title>
		<link>http://www.jbvisions.co.uk/voices/archives/38#comment-733</link>
		<author>Jaybee</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 13:53:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Since I wrote this blog, things have altered somewhat. I am now officially amongst the ranks of the "disabled". I've been diagnosed with MS.

I'll post more about this later in a full item but for now I'll just remark on the change in the way people interact with me.

I don't need a wheelchair. I don't need any aids. I occasionally fall over if I'm not concentrating properly on my balance. I don't, as far as I'm aware have Progressive MS so the symptoms come and go. For all intents and purposes I'm the same as I always was but the instant I say I have MS I get one of two reactions.

Either I'm told that they too have MS and have had for years and not to worry about it, or, in the case of family, friends and acquaintances, their world collapses. They ring me up and speak in hushed tones. Half assume I've just become an imbecile and need to have everything explained very slowly and in detail, the other half seem to assume I can take an Aspirin and be better by next week.

I'm beginning to see that a large part of disability is not having to deal with your disease, it's having to deal with other people's perceptions of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since I wrote this blog, things have altered somewhat. I am now officially amongst the ranks of the &#8220;disabled&#8221;. I&#8217;ve been diagnosed with MS.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll post more about this later in a full item but for now I&#8217;ll just remark on the change in the way people interact with me.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t need a wheelchair. I don&#8217;t need any aids. I occasionally fall over if I&#8217;m not concentrating properly on my balance. I don&#8217;t, as far as I&#8217;m aware have Progressive MS so the symptoms come and go. For all intents and purposes I&#8217;m the same as I always was but the instant I say I have MS I get one of two reactions.</p>
<p>Either I&#8217;m told that they too have MS and have had for years and not to worry about it, or, in the case of family, friends and acquaintances, their world collapses. They ring me up and speak in hushed tones. Half assume I&#8217;ve just become an imbecile and need to have everything explained very slowly and in detail, the other half seem to assume I can take an Aspirin and be better by next week.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m beginning to see that a large part of disability is not having to deal with your disease, it&#8217;s having to deal with other people&#8217;s perceptions of it.</p>
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		<title>By: JBVoices &#187; What a difference a day makes</title>
		<link>http://www.jbvisions.co.uk/voices/archives/38#comment-756</link>
		<author>JBVoices &#187; What a difference a day makes</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 13:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.jbvisions.co.uk/voices/archives/38#comment-756</guid>
					<description>[...] Last year I wrote a piece for BAD day and asked what exactly &#8216;disabled&#8217; was. This year I&#8217;m even more confused. You see on February 4th this year I walked into my local hospital fully able and came out an hour later labelled as &#8216;disabled&#8217;. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Last year I wrote a piece for BAD day and asked what exactly &#8216;disabled&#8217; was. This year I&#8217;m even more confused. You see on February 4th this year I walked into my local hospital fully able and came out an hour later labelled as &#8216;disabled&#8217;. [&#8230;]</p>
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